Can we keep the good and discard the bad?That requires a really deliberate planning and action on our part to maintain the things that work and, if they can no longer work, find a substitute to do so.We have to make very specific plans about what we are going to do.That is my number one advice, concrete planning.Well, what are the things you are going to keep?How are you going to keep them?It is not a sexy answer, but it is the important answer.

There was a study on the 2014 London Metro strike.A lot of different stations were closed, but some were open, so all these travelers had a couple of days in which they were forced to experiment with new routes to work.When the strike ended, most returned to its old route, but around 5% - a significant number - found a new route that turned out to be better.They had taken a less efficient route to go to work because they looked at a map and thought: "Oh, that's how I should go to work", and they did it for 5, 10 or 50 years.The strike arrives and forces them to go on a different path.They say: "This was five minutes faster.I'm going to do this ".And they stayed with that since then.

I have certainly had those moments in life, where something accidental makes you discover something you never went to look for.And you think, expect, this is better.From this pandemic, perhaps it will be 5% of the things we have discovered that they are better.As my family never went on an excursion, and now we are going on an excursion every Saturday and Sunday.I am sure that everyone has different things that forced exploration has made them discover.I think we have to hold on to that.

In the chapter entitled "The problem of laziness", you address the human tendency to opt for the path of the least resistance.Are there concrete things in your life where you have taken that tendency to put into practice certain behaviors?

Of many ways.In our kitchen, we don't have a lot of junk food by default.The choices you make about accessible foods are predetermined, my calendar has all kinds of predetermined incorporated.I have a weekly meeting that is my ideation meeting.I assure myself that there is time blocked for that.There is another time to write to write.These are default values that we are building to ensure that time is used for the things we value and are more important.

I have default answers for different [emails] so as not to have to think about them.If the situation X is presented several times, instead of thinking about it, I have thought about it once and that is how the handling.And then I try to use these principles also in teaching.By default, all my students have scheduled meetings with me at the beginning of the semester, as a visit during office hours.

It seems that much of the behavior change is reduced to humility.The index of your book looks like a catalog of all ways in which humans are fallible.And I think many people don't want to admit that...

The index is a bit hard.[Laughs] Someone said: "God, this is so depressing!"

There is one thing - sure you know - that if you ask people if they are average, below the average, or above average, a large majority of people qualify above average.Which is mathematically impossible.And it seems that the change in behavior can only begin by admitting itself that is defective in many aspects.

Correct, and this is how you get to be above average, which is funny.The worst thing you can do is be naive.As, I don't need to establish myself with special accommodations to help me dodge them.I will achieve my goals without crutches.If you do that, you basically do not get anywhere.There are some humans who would come somewhere, but for most of us it would be a disaster.